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  • Upgrading to Hella H4 housings in an old Conversion Van

    Hi,
    I just recently purchased a 1988 Dodge B250 Conversion Van. I purchased the Hella E code 5x7 housing which will allow me to use a H4 bulb instead of the sealed beam units. I also decided to upgrade my wiring harness from HeadlightServices. Now I need a good bulb. My thoughts were to either go with the Hella 100/80w bulbs that are readily available on Amazon, or go LED. What are the recommendations for the reflector style housing from Hella. Thanks

  • #2
    Welcome to HID planet.

    Are your housings clear or the old style?

    If you decide to go LED go with the Philips style H4 LEDs they will get you the best beam pattern without too much glare.
    https://www.ebay.de/itm/H4-PHILIPS-X...-/252947606016


    I think 100/80 halogens will fry the reflector after a while so I would stick to something like 65 or 70 watts. Osram has some options too.

    But for the price of all of this you could buy a chinese LED headlight or do a Bi-Xenon retrofit. Well if you get hooked to upgrading your headlights you will keep going anyways and upgraded halogens are not the last thing you'll do...
    Subaru Outback retrofit:
    http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...aru-Outback-H6
    License plate lights with dual brightness:
    https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...hen-backing-up

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    • #3
      I would run a good old halogen over LED in this case. I don't know if those housings can handle Hella 100/80W bulbs heat wise, but I'm not discouraging you from trying. But they won't fry for similar reasons that HIDs fry reflectors.

      2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder
      2017 Lexus CT200h F Sport

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      • #4
        Hi, from what I was reading, many people have used upgraded bulbs in the housings without burning them up. Not saying it won't happen, but if it does, new housings are 80 dollars. I will try to find a us source for the phillips bulbs. The xenondepot bulbs I can get at a discount are these

        https://www.xenondepot.com/H4-Xtreme...led-h4-pro.htm


        Are those any good. I will try to find the phillips bulbs on the US ebay as well. I heard a new version was released for the phillips bulb as well, not sure if there is a cheaper price yet somewhere for them.

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        • #5
          XenonDepot XtremeLED Pro H11 tested great, never tried H4 but their last gen one also did great.

          2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder
          2017 Lexus CT200h F Sport

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Haloruler64 View Post
            XenonDepot XtremeLED Pro H11 tested great, never tried H4 but their last gen one also did great.
            That's good to know. I may go that route since I can obtain the bulbs for about 55 dollars less than the phillips. This isn't an everyday vehicle but it is one that I will be traveling the US in.

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            • #7
              Problem with H4 is that the shield inside the bulb is there to make the cutoff. Meaning that only the top half of the reflector is used. On all other bulbs all of the reflector is beeing used. Thats why it is the diffucult to buld LED or HID H4 bulbs that work half way decent. The Philips design is the only one that kind of got this right on an LED bulb. Thats why I recomenndet them. But there are chinese knock offs out there. Starting at 40 USD...

              Check out this thread:

              https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...eadlight-bulbs
              Subaru Outback retrofit:
              http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...aru-Outback-H6
              License plate lights with dual brightness:
              https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...hen-backing-up

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Crossgolf View Post
                Problem with H4 is that the shield inside the bulb is there to make the cutoff. Meaning that only the top half of the reflector is used. On all other bulbs all of the reflector is beeing used. Thats why it is the diffucult to buld LED or HID H4 bulbs that work half way decent. The Philips design is the only one that kind of got this right on an LED bulb. Thats why I recomenndet them. But there are chinese knock offs out there. Starting at 40 USD...
                Would i be better off to wait for phillips gen 11342XUWX2. I can probably get those for around 135 when a promo code pops up. I can get the gen1 for around the same price while the xenondepot can be bought for around 85 depending on promos. The Chinese knockoffs I am guessing will not be as good, so I will choose between the phillips and the xenondepot bulbs.

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                • #9
                  I have no clue about current prices. But my guess would be that it would be worth to get Gen2. And I am sure you are riht on the knock offs. I haven't used any of them myself. Only did some reading about it for future use on a Triumph Street Triple.
                  Subaru Outback retrofit:
                  http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...aru-Outback-H6
                  License plate lights with dual brightness:
                  https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...hen-backing-up

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                  • #10
                    Regarding the led lamps and bi xenon kits in 5x7. They would actually be cheaper but it would take the classic look I am trying to maintain away from my vehicle. I already will be well over 300 with the upgrades I am doing now but when the lights are off, the original look will be preserved.

                    Crossgolf I see you have an outback. I did an install and review of a 2015 Subaru outback hid kit from xenondepot. They did not provide the kit but reached out to me to use my review on their website, it's still up there which is pretty cool. I enjoy lighting but probably have about 5 percent of the necessary knowledge of all these new technologies. I am an old gearhead that mainly wrenches on vehicles from the 50's and 60's.

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                    • #11
                      Problem with Philips is that their more recent offerings have sucked. Russian dude who tests lighting has tried the newer models and they can't even match halogen. And with the way their T20s went, I don't trust Philips at all. The new T20 Ultinons are hot garbage, unsafe unusable garbage.

                      2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder
                      2017 Lexus CT200h F Sport

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Haloruler64 View Post
                        Problem with Philips is that their more recent offerings have sucked. Russian dude who tests lighting has tried the newer models and they can't even match halogen. And with the way their T20s went, I don't trust Philips at all. The new T20 Ultinons are hot garbage, unsafe unusable garbage.
                        Out of what's in the market, any decent h4 led offerings? I think I am gonna buy the xenondepots

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                        • #13
                          I haven't tested many, but the last gen XenonDepots worked great and I've seen photos of the current gens working pretty well. Unfortunately SL1s are not available in H4s.

                          2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder
                          2017 Lexus CT200h F Sport

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Haloruler64 View Post
                            I haven't tested many, but the last gen XenonDepots worked great and I've seen photos of the current gens working pretty well. Unfortunately SL1s are not available in H4s.
                            I did contact diode dynamics as the sl2 will be out sometime this year but he didn't have a time frame I will just go xenondepot for now. This way I don't damage my housings at all.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Haloruler64 View Post
                              Problem with Philips is that their more recent offerings have sucked. Russian dude who tests lighting has tried the newer models and they can't even match halogen. And with the way their T20s went, I don't trust Philips at all. The new T20 Ultinons are hot garbage, unsafe unusable garbage.
                              Oh wow. I didn't know that. I was about the close the deal on a set for my Street Triple.
                              Subaru Outback retrofit:
                              http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...aru-Outback-H6
                              License plate lights with dual brightness:
                              https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...hen-backing-up

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