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  • D2S Bulb in D1S Igniter?

    Sorry if this is a silly question, but my "google fu" didn't give me a straight answer and I don't want to blow something up.

    I have fairly new bulbs in my old car which uses D2S and want to transfer them to my newer truck that is running a D1S setup because one of the truck's bulbs is going pink. Will the D2S bulb work with the D1S igniter? Any downside to doing this?

  • #2
    Welcome to HID Planet!

    The ingiter is integrated into D1S bulbs and cannot be reused. However, there are a few products that allow you to use D2S bulbs in D1S applications. Here is one. Whether it's the best, I do not know. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/mo...onversion.html

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    • #3
      Oh noes, it just clicked for me. My range rover sport (the truck) is actually D2S just like my car. The setup is just different with the igniter sitting at the bulb, so I thought they were D1S. Your tip that they "cannot be reused" made it click, thank you.

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      • #4
        Ah yeah, that's just an external igniter rather than it being inside the ballast. If it's a D2S bulb (which it seems to be), then it's interchangeable with your other car.

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        • #5
          duplicate
          Last edited by D1S; May 14th, 2018, 11:16 AM.
          D1S is where its at, Radically better EMI and RFI performance. Only the new Japanese cars still use D2 bulbs, the others have all changed to D1S.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Haloruler64 View Post
            Welcome to HID Planet! The ingiter is integrated into D1S bulbs and cannot be reused. However, there are a few products that allow you to use D2S bulbs in D1S applications. Here is one. Whether it's the best, I do not know. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/mo...onversion.html
            Functionally those are D1S type igniters but dimensionally they ere very different especially in depth, substantially deeper than a D1S igniter.
            We make a proprietary igniter that identically mimics a D1S using a D2S bulb installed into it. Can also use D2R.
            http://www.xevision.com/hid_xesparq.html
            There were some counterfeits some years ago from China, it seems that has mostly "dried up", maybe partly because of our Patent application at that time.
            Last edited by D1S; May 14th, 2018, 11:18 AM.
            D1S is where its at, Radically better EMI and RFI performance. Only the new Japanese cars still use D2 bulbs, the others have all changed to D1S.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by D1S View Post
              Functionally those are D1S type igniters but dimensionally they ere very different especially in depth, substantially deeper than a D1S igniter. We make a proprietary igniter that identically mimics a D1S using a D2S bulb installed into it. Can also use D2R. http://www.xevision.com/hid_xesparq.html There were some counterfeits some years ago from China, it seems that has mostly "dried up", maybe partly because of our Patent application at that time.
              Didn't know that it's original comes from your company. Can you explain how it different from this China counterfeit igniter? I bought some type of these China counterfeit igniter but it all died quickly ....

              And is your company's igniter still for sell?

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              • #8
                Can you show a photo of the counterfeit igniters you are talking about ?
                The ones shown from TRS are originally Hirose (Japan) but private Labeled Valeo it seems they are real.
                Assuming they are not copies, doubtful from TRS if labeled as Valeo.
                The link below is an older conversation about the same igniter/socket combination from 2009/2010

                https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...allast-adapter

                We use a custom wound HV transformer made in-house and high quality "spark gaps" the Chinese made spark gaps don't last so long.
                Ours are fully potted inside to prevent any HV arcing and a Mylar sheet strategically placed to prevent arcing as well.
                Yes, they are for sale but expensive, for aviation and military customers.
                We do have a few pieces (5) of our Rev 1 still left. Those can be had for $140 for a pair. the Rev2 are $111.00 each.
                Last edited by D1S; May 15th, 2018, 10:56 AM.
                D1S is where its at, Radically better EMI and RFI performance. Only the new Japanese cars still use D2 bulbs, the others have all changed to D1S.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by D1S View Post
                  Can you show a photo of the counterfeit igniters you are talking about ? The ones shown from TRS are originally Hirose (Japan) but private Labeled Valeo it seems they are real. Assuming they are not copies, doubtful from TRS if labeled as Valeo. The link below is an older conversation about the same igniter/socket combination from 2009/2010 https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...allast-adapter We use a custom wound HV transformer made in-house and high quality "spark gaps" the Chinese made spark gaps don't last so long. Ours are fully potted inside to prevent any HV arcing and a Mylar sheet strategically placed to prevent arcing as well. Yes, they are for sale but expensive, for aviation and military customers. We do have a few pieces (5) of our Rev 1 still left. Those can be had for $140 for a pair. the Rev2 are $111.00 each.
                  sure, very easy to find those that don't last long...

                  https://goo.gl/n4Ao5P

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jacie6056 View Post
                    sure, very easy to find those that don't last long... https://goo.gl/n4Ao5P
                    That's a "well made" (sarcasm) counterfeit product for $17 for a pair like $8 each. Its impossible to fight these guys when they sell to individuals using e-pack postage (almost free delivery, both by the Chinese government and the US postal system subsidizing (e-pack) and loosing money on the postal shipping). Patents are pretty much worthless against Chinese makers and sellers selling to the USA. Stop 1 and 2 or 3 more sellers pop up, its like the "wack a mole" game.
                    Last edited by D1S; May 16th, 2018, 12:10 PM.
                    D1S is where its at, Radically better EMI and RFI performance. Only the new Japanese cars still use D2 bulbs, the others have all changed to D1S.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jacie6056 View Post
                      sure, very easy to find those that don't last long...
                      message sent in response to yours.
                      D1S is where its at, Radically better EMI and RFI performance. Only the new Japanese cars still use D2 bulbs, the others have all changed to D1S.

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