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  • What's the difference between H11 and 9006?

    Hey guys. Is there a difference between a H11 bulb and a 9006 bulb size? Are they one in the same?

    If the car takes a "H11" will a "9006" fit?

    I'm trying to replace my halogen fog lights with yellow. The manual states 9006 and so do online sites, but someone on a lexus forum mentioned it was an H11 not a 9006.

    I just want to make sure i order the right bulbs. The fog lights are projectors.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    No, they're not the same thing. They're very close in size, but the base is different. Namely, 9006 has bulb > rubber seal > locking tabs > connector, while the H11 has bulb > locking tabs > rubber seal > connector.

    The filaments are very similar, but I think H11 is a newer design.
    *nalc
    97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
    Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
    Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
    Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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    • #3
      thanks

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      • #4
        My guess is that it's 9006 - I know the Lexus projectors have taken 9006 and H3 in the past.

        Whereas, H11 is usually used in low-beam projectors, or in reflector fogs.

        Do you have any pics of the bulb, or is it in a location where it's a major PITA to get to?
        *nalc
        97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
        Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
        Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
        Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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        • #5
          I googled it and got a good post about HID fogs on a lexus forum... then I see that you posted in it too

          According to the Sylvania bulb guide, it's a 9006 in the foglight.

          The RX400h with halogen headlights uses H11 projectors in the lowbeams (which is almost certainly the Stanley MDX projector, since it's almost identical to the RX330), so that's probably why the guy on the forum is confused.
          *nalc
          97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
          Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
          Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
          Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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          • #6
            BTW, cduluk, I put ebay clear lenses in my M35s, and I got this funky cutoff.

            The lens needs to be closer to the shield, but it's in as far as it will go without chopping up the lens holder, which I don't want to do.
            *nalc
            97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
            Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
            Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
            Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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            • #7
              nalc, what type of clear lens are you using? The problem is that the lens' focal length just doesn't work with that projector. If you move it closer, the center will be flat and sharp, but the outer edges will be all blurry. Can't have both, unless the lens has the right curvature..

              Well, i've confirmed that the rx400h fog lights take H11 NOT 9006.

              No idea how every online manual and car's manual can be wrong, but they are lol.

              I got a pair of the PIAA Ion Yellow H11 bulbs from a local car store for ~$70 bucks. They look GREAT!

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              • #8
                Clear lens from ebay H3 projectors that I ground down the outside to fit.

                The cutoff would be great if I could move the lens like 1/8th of an inch closer to the bowl, but it's as close as the lens holder will let me move it.

                If I run spacers, the whole thing is blurry. As I slowly move the lens closer, it gets sharper and sharper. It would look perfect if it got a little bit closer, but I don't want to chop up the lens holder on my $$ projectors just to make these lenses fit, when I could just buy a pair that does fit.

                What lenses did you use in yours? TSX-R?
                *nalc
                97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
                Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
                Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
                Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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                • #9
                  for future reference, they are totally different. if you have 9006 and want more light, you can modify a 9005 bulb to fit. if you have H11 and you want more light, you can modify an H9 bulb to fit. 9005 and H9 are hi beam bulbs around 65w and put out almost double the light output when compared to the lo beam 9006 and H11 bulbs. and by modify i mean you only shave a small amount of material from the bulb tabs. no modification to the housing.

                  but glad you got it figured out. H11 is one of the dimmer halogen bulbs, just a tiny bit better than H4. and they look great in yellow.

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                  • #10
                    Eh, i get enough light from the H11's i'll let it go lol.

                    Nalc, i honestly don't remember what lenses i used on the M45's, it was almost a year ago. It wasn't the tsx-r lenses though i know that.

                    Search for it. Try to find my earliest posts (that's when i joined the forum) i typed it somewhere... lol

                    The lenses you're using will never give you good output. The curvature's off. If you get the lens closer, the center cutoff might be sharp, but the outer cutoff will get VERY blurry at larger distances. Just won't work =/

                    Do a search for whatever lenses i used, they were perfect.

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                    • #11
                      my moms 07 tl fogs take them h11 bulbs. But i think the only difference i saw was that the wattage was differnt, 35 vs 55 on the 9006. I wanted to put 9006 bulbs in there but i was concerned about the material in the foglight melting....
                      My retrofits
                      http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?44256-92-honda-accord-morimoto-h1

                      http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...nji-Headlights
                      http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...ector-retrofit.
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                      • #12
                        35w would be a H8 bulb, which is a lower-power H11 meant for foglights. H8, H11, and H9 are all interchangeable.

                        9006, 9005, 9012, and 9011 are all interchangeable too.

                        But if it's H11, you can't do a 9006.
                        *nalc
                        97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
                        Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
                        Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
                        Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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                        • #13
                          BTW, cduluk, I looked up some of your posts from last fall.

                          You used S2000 lenses? Do you remember if you had to do any spacing to get them right?

                          Also, you mention that you had trouble with distortion above the cutoff, but painting the whole shield flat black helped.

                          I think the M35s are designed to have squirrel finders. Not as bright as the ones on halogen projectors, but they're definitely there.

                          The way it works is that the forground limiter is chromed, and angles downward. The lens side of the cutoff shield is polished, and angles upward. Some of the light from the bulb hits the foreground limiter, is reflected downwards to the cutoff shield, then reflected forward to the lens.

                          I don't have a great picture of it, but they make a thin yellow blob of light above the cutoff. I have them off the car to work on a little bit, so I'll try to snap a pic.
                          *nalc
                          97 Maxima SE 5MT - Neptune Blue (SOLD 8/2010)
                          Dual Retrofit - MDX H11 HID lows (SOLD 6/2009)
                          Quad Retrofit - Catera H1 lows, MDX H9 highs (SOLD 3/2010)
                          Hexa Retrofit - AP1 S2000 lows w/ 35w 85122+, TFX highs w/ 55w 85122, Blazer fogs (Parts For Sale in FS Section)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nalc
                            35w would be a H8 bulb, which is a lower-power H11 meant for foglights. H8, H11, and H9 are all interchangeable.

                            9006, 9005, 9012, and 9011 are all interchangeable too.

                            But if it's H11, you can't do a 9006.
                            do you think the fogs will hold up to the heat?
                            My retrofits
                            http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?44256-92-honda-accord-morimoto-h1

                            http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...nji-Headlights
                            http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...ector-retrofit.
                            http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-turn-retrovan

                            http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...ll-LED-project
                            http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-quad-retrofit

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                            • #15
                              I don't remember what lenses i used when i did the M45 retro last august, i honestly don't remember a darn thing about that project, other than the fact that the LS460's blew them away so i made the switch lol...

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